Detailed Review of Schaumburg Kia by larry1958
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February 11, 2009, 2:25 pm
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Ladies and gentleman,
Your going to see first hand what liars Schaumburg Kia are. I read the tonythemongoose post, so I was very honest in an e-mail to them and stated that I wouldn't purchase a vehicle from them. Check out there response, and then check out mine.
[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2]Kia of Schaumburg - Tom Conway
To: delinolarry@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:50:30 AM
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[/SIZE][/FONT]you can believe what you want.
the judge through tony out of court because he has tried this same scam 4 times with other dealers.
when had the legal right to press charges but desided not to .
Kia of Schaumburg - Tom Conway tconway@users.ccleads.com
 
Tom,
Your a liar and how do I know this? I read all of the posts written and there were two individuals who stuck out, one is attorney1, and the other is legal brief1.
I have a relative who is an attorney in Mchenry County and he looked up this case. Remember attorney1 gave the case number, well it states as we all know your liars, and Tony as you call him gave the vehicle back due to the fact he was tired of you guys threatening to steal the vehicle. I believe legal brief1 commented on overhearing that during court. There are no legal charges that can be filed, because you guys are unethical and immoral.
Larry
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February 12, 2009, 11:03 am
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[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Hello,[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Over the last twenty-four hours I’ve received an abundance of e-mails, which pertained to a post written by a gentleman named Larry. I want to thank Larry for coming to my defense and writing his post. I was unbelievably surprised by all of the post’s that have been written well after I wrote my last post, so I would also like to thank those individuals for there post’s and support. As for Tom’s comments in his e-mail, I feel bad that a dealership has to use lies a defamation and ludicrous statements to rectify an issue they brought upon themselves.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]1) Getting thrown out of court for scamming four other dealerships, I have in my possession, a court order dated August 11, 2008 which states I gave the vehicle back willingly, the Judge never forced me to do so. There legal pleading as much as it was a pack of lies and defamation, it never stated I had ever done this, nor was there any evidence to show that I tried to scam four other dealerships. I have owned thirty-two cars, if I were a scammer then who sold them to me? If anyone wants to see my court order or the legal pleading, then as I stated before, you have my e-mail address, and I will either e-mail it to you or fax it.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]If Schaumburg Kia has lost allot of vehicle sales due to this issue, then as a corporation they should have stood up and done the right thing from the beginning, they have know one to blame but themselves. As I’ve stated from the beginning, all I wanted Schaumburg Kia to do was stand behind a contract they agreed too on June 04, 2008, signed, and bypassed the allotted days to legally withdraw from the retail installment agreement. This isn’t brain surgery, it ethical business.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]I would ask one more thing in all fairness to cardealercheck.com, please only post comments for related posts, and don’t write a sales review for Schaumburg Kia, this will insure fairness to all parties involved.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Thank You,[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Tony[/SIZE][/FONT]
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February 14, 2009, 12:51 pm
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[FONT=Arial]I always look at car dealer reports by consumes so while reading cardealercheck.com I realized who this individual tonythemongoose was after looking at all of his post Tony is a nickname and not his real name I want to set the record straight I was a finance manager for many years and tony or tonythemongoose as you call him came into my facility and purchased a late model sls cadillac about four years ago did he scam us or try anything unusual no he came in and stated this is my price and the monthly payment I want and if we can reach an agreement then you just sold a vehicle if not then it is what it is tonythemongoose as he’s called was a straight shooter no scamming or lying we reached an agreement and he purchased the car schaumburg kia should of done the right thing from the beginning and not made up lies and stories to cover there own bad business practices schaumburg kia your losing a ton of sales because you still haven’t done the write thing and people see this and realize that this was done with malicious intent Bad publicity will destroy a business and you will continue to lose sales until you step up and do the write thing Tonythemongoose I will personally work with you anytime you want and it was a pleasure selling you the cadillac and I’ll work with you anytime or any place schaumburg kia your behavior is what gives the car industry a bad name[/FONT]
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February 15, 2009, 3:43 pm
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Cardealercheck.com and all individuals who have posted: I had a good friend of mine tell me about this story, and being an individual in the legal profession I thought I would give my opinion. Tom I would be very careful what you ask for, there is no need for charges to be filed by this gentleman named Tony, why? Due to the fact once this issue is heard in court of law a judge will find you, Ms. Ashen, or Schaumburg guilty of whatever criminal charges are warranted and no one else. You would have to be an idiot not to think that this gentleman doesn’t have an attorney, he’s had three attorneys who posted on cardealercheck.com offer their services on a commission basis. With this type of case and individuals like yourself and Scam, an attorney will lye in wait as the defamation piles up and then file his lawsuits. Time is on Tony’s side, not Schaumburg Kia’s. I have to commend this Tony individual due to the fact; he’s been nothing but truthful and professional, and that type of character juries and judges love and his overabundance of evidence will do wonders in court. So no one believes I know tonythemongoose or am doing this in the hopes that something will get done, I say this; Schaumburg Kia keep doing what you’re doing.
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February 16, 2009, 3:12 pm
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[FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]I can’t believe what I just read! Whenever I hear a story I always figure actions speak louder than words, and isn’t that the truth.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]Tonythemongoose as he calls himself, very simply stated in a mature, professional manner, that Schaumburg Kia had unethical business practices.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]Now here comes Tom and Scam, lying and making up stories about Tonythemongoose. Well as you can see, actions do speak louder than words. I decided to respond to this very post due to the fact that everyone at my office has been talking about it. All I hear all day long is, if you’re looking for a car don’t go to Schaumburg Kia, then it’s followed by check out the story on cardealercheck.com. Now I understand why, Tonythemongoose thank you for your honesty and your professionalism, and as for Schaumburg Kia, looking at all these posts you’re getting what you deserve, a large lose of vehicle sales and the bad reputation you deserve. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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February 17, 2009, 11:09 am
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[FONT=Georgia][SIZE=2]Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:03:30 AM [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=2]To:tconway@users.ccleads.com[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=2]tom[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=2]i have two questions for you nad i would like them answered. i don't know tonythemongoose other than through my e-mail to him. He was kind enough tio send me his court order and his original spot delivery agreement and one marked exhibit b and a portion of the legal pleading.1/ if tonythemongoose was a scammer and tried to rippoff four other dealerships then why did your attorney and the judge give tonythemongoose seven days to return the vehicle. if he was thrown out of court and was looked at as a scammer then wouldnt your attorney and the judge have demanded the 2007 ford mustang convertible that day. this is a legal court order from mchenry county signed by the judge and the clerk of the circut court.2/ why was exhibit b forged with tonythemongooses legal name if you guys were telling the truth. i have a friend of mine who works in the finance department at an elgin il dealership and he said a spot delivery agreement only has an original and a copy. if tonythemongoose has the original then where did your original come from. im going to post this e-mail on [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=2]cardealercheck.com[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=2] and when you respond to me through my e-mail adress i will post that also.if your not able to respond then i would accept you managers or your owners response to these two questions..[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=2]thank you,[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=2]Raymond Johnson[/SIZE][/FONT]
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February 17, 2009, 3:08 pm
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this morning i sent an e-mail to tom at schaumburg kia and if you look at my e-mail my questions were very straight forward. i realize only four hours have past but it only took tonythemongoose an hour to respond and twenty minutes to fax me over all of his information. tom you can't argue truthful written evidence. to everyone who has posted we can now see who is the honest one is and who are the liars. i believe as nicky said your bad reputation and the large amount of vehicle loses will continue to mount. as civilattorney1 said time is on tonythemongooses side. with this bad econmy how much time do you have. i guess doing the right thing looks good right abot now! i will no longer post but i believe we now realize what an injustice has occured.
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February 18, 2009, 11:10 am
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[FONT=Cordia New]Biggranpa1 [/FONT] [FONT=Cordia New][FONT=Courier New]in all honesty four hours isn’t alott of time to respond but if you would have given schaumburg kia four months it wouldn’t have mattered. court orders and forgeries are just that. I’m very surprised at the amount of people who know about this situation and still continually bring it up day after day. Tonythemongooses real name sounded familiar so I looked up are records and about a year ago tonythemongoose came into our dealership in the northwest suburbs to look at a 2008 Ford Mustang Convertible. our dealerships salesmen take notes on our customer for marketing purposes. In the notes our salesman stated tonythemongoose was professional direct and honest. He further stated that he would work with tonythemongoose again whenever tonythemongoose revisited our dealership. There was no mention of any type of scamming as being said about tonythemongoose by Schaumburg kia. I have one question did the ownership or management at Schaumburg kia flunk math. You’re losing a ton of business over what I read in a post that the vehicles selling price was under thirteen thousand dollars. Best-case scenario if this continues with civil lawsuits and lose vehicle sales you’ll lose millions. Worst-case scenario you’ll continue on this path and due absolutely nothing lose millions and then go out of business. see what I mean by flunking math. I agree with financeguru1 you guys give hard working men and women at dealerships a bad name.[/FONT][/FONT]
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February 18, 2009, 2:25 pm
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[FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=2]as i promised here is the e-mail response from scaumburg kia[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=2]Kia of Schaumburg - Tom Conway [/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2][FONT=Palatino Linotype]To: Raymond Johnson [/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=2][FONT=Palatino Linotype]Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:25:49 AM[/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=2][FONT=Palatino Linotype]Subject: Re: Vehicle[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=2]you have way to much time on your hands. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=2]the judge made him return the car meaning he was wrong [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=2]if he was right he would still have the car [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=2]i did not make the legal system but i do follow it [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=2]legally he had to return the car [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=2]im going to answer these questions one by one[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=2]1/ if the judge forced him to give back the car and he was wrong then why was he given seven days to return the mustng convertible.I saw the court order through a fax. legalbrief1 stated tonythemongoose attorney wasn't able to be there so he said i'm tired of them continually threathening to steal my vehicle so they can have it. If i' read the post corectly their is a police report in which two employees from schaumburg kia tried to do just that. the police said get lost and your not touching tonythemongooses car. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=2]2/ how can you say you or schaumburg kia or your attorney followed the law when you entered a forged document into a court of law. i saw tonythemongooses original spot delivery agreement and your exhibit b through a fax. as i stated before i'm fully aware that a spot delivery agreement only has two pages and if tonythemongoose has the original then where did your originl come from.yes i do have to much time on my hands im retired. i don't like playing these kinds of dumb games but all i wanted to hear was Raymond we made a mistake and were going to rectify it. all i'm hearing are more and more lies. i don't know tonythemongoose but this type of injustice can't be tolerated. tom before you continue to lie try and read the post's like eveyone else does. how do you think i got the information. as for tonythemongoose what he said he backed up. as for yourself and schaumburg kia you only defense is lies. I want to thank everyone and say goodbye[/SIZE][/FONT].
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February 20, 2009, 2:11 pm
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Grandpa1, Thank you for standing up for me, and I would like to thank finananceguru1, johnnybravo1, and Nicky1, and everybody for posting on my behalf. I have received an unbelievable amount of positive and supportive e-mails over the last couple of days, so I felt I wanted to set the record straight once and for all. Everything I’m about to say I have written or legal documentation to offer as evidence. I don’t understand why Tom feels it necessary to defame my character, but that’s Tom and Schaumburg Kia’s prerogatives. August 11, 2008 I went into court and due to the fact my attorney was on vacation, and the judge was only willing to give us a continuance until September 02, 2008, and since I knew my attorney would be on vacation well past that time, I then stated to the judge I’m tired of them threatening to steal this vehicle and my attorney won’t be back in time, so I’m going to willingly give the 2007 Ford Mustang Convertible back. The judge then stated Ok Tonythemongoose I’ll give you seven days August 18, 2008, to look for a vehicle and get things in order. Can I prove? Yes my court order. I did state to the honorable judge, that my attorney would do what he felt was necessary after the fact. She then stated that is your prerogative Tonythemongoose. I was never charged any court fees, or any attorney fees, or damages. Can I prove this? Yes, my courts order. Exhibit B – On July 30,2008 I received a summons, case number being#08LM629 which stated, (look at attorney1’s post he explained exactly what the summons stated.) When I looked at exhibit B I thought if I have the original spot delivery agreement, then what is this exhibit B? From that day forward I sent Ms. Debra Ashen a minimal of 25 faxes that stated your exhibit B is a forgery. I even went as far as to highlight Brian’s initials. Can I prove this? Yes, I have all twenty five faxes and confirmation sheets, proving Ms. Ashen was well aware of this forgery prior to our court date of August 11, 2008 and her office had received all of my faxes. All I wanted was Schaumburg Kia to stand behind a contract they signed, agreed too, and bypassed the legal amount of time that they were given to legally back out of the contract. Can I prove this? Yes, my retail installment agreement, my spot delivery agreement, the vehicle purchase order, state of Illinois plate document, odometer disclosure statement, interest rate, monthly payment, number of months, final payout, terms and conditions of contract all signed by a representative for Schaumburg Kia, (Brian), and myself. If anyone were to purchase a car and then fifteen days later just drop it off and say see you, do you think you wouldn’t be held accountable to that contract? If you answered yes, then you’re correct. If individuals want to continue to post and not purchase a vehicle from Schaumburg Kia, or use Ms. Ashen and her associates for legal services, then that’s your legal right and your decision. Please understand my only goal here was to insure that the consumer understood and were well aware of what Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Debra Ashen did to me. Any evidence I stated I have, I will be more then happy to send via e-mail or via fax to anyone who is interested. Thank You, Tonythemongoose
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February 20, 2009, 5:03 pm
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i promise not to post anymore but thank you tonythemongoose for being proffessional enough to tell the truth without personally atacking anyone. as been said in alot of postings you are a class act. i sorry for getting so angry but i though this was a total lack of ethics and morels. thank you cardealercheck.com for letting consumers bring these people to lite. the one thing you can't dispute is writen evidence. this is such a shame all that had to be done was the rite thing. schaumburg kia your losing sales and will continue to due to your own actions. I have been alive a long time and i've never seen such a lack of comon sense.
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February 23, 2009, 6:15 pm
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[SIZE=2][FONT=Arial Narrow]thank you cardealercheck.com and tonythemongoose. on friday i was thinking of purchasing a kia and the closest dealership to my house is schaumburg kia. so i went and looked at schaumburg kia reviews and was i surprised. what puzzled me the most was schaumburg kia's lack of proffesionalism not to mention threre criminals! i wasn't able to read all the posts because some are hidden but the ones i read summed up the situation. here is what truly boggles my mind schaumburg kia has probably lost at least fifty sales over one car. so let me gat this straight rather than do the right thing and settle this with tonythemongoose they would rather continue to lose sales. this is mind blowing and no ofense really stupid[/FONT].[/SIZE] WELL SCHAUMBURG KIA YOU GUYS LOST ANOTHER SALE AND IM SURE WERE NOT DONE COUNTING.
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February 24, 2009, 11:37 am
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[FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]This post is directed to Ms. Ashen.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]Dear Ms. Ashen,[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]I wanted to take an opportunity to let you know how disappointed I am in your behavior, regarding an issue between Schaumburg Kia and a tonythemongoose. As a businessman who has used attorneys for most of my adult life, I realize ethics is not always apparent in attorneys, but maintaining the law always has. I’ve read most of the posts on cardealercheck.com, and it’s one thing to forge an individual’s signature, but it’s another to lie and make up stories about him. I’ve dealt with alott of attorneys who work in the same courtroom with you on a daily basis, and they all said the same thing, for an attorney to knowingly and willingly go into court with a document that is forged, violates the very oath he or she has taken.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]I contacted tonythemongoose to verify the information he stated was legitimate, and as I expected it was. I felt compelled to post my opinion on cardealercheck.com, just let you know that this situation should have been rectified in a fair and contractual manner, not in the illegal and character assassination type of manner that it was handled in. tonythemongoose legally purchased that vehicle, so then Schaumburg Kia should have been held accountable to their contractual obligation. Ms. Ashen if we allow individuals to lie and commit criminal’s acts just to back out of contractual obligations, and then our attorneys allow this type of behavior to continue, then why have legal contractual agreements, and then why have attorneys? I would ask you to ponder this very question. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]Thank You,[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]Dawk1[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial Unicode MS][SIZE=2]Dawk1 you hit the baby dead on. Yesterday I read your post to my class and as a pre-law student our professor is using this issue with Ms. Ashen as a class attorney ethics project. I was surprised that your post was already gone, and I was also surprised that Schaumburg Kia was taken off the worst car dealer list. As a class we were trying to figure out what made this such a hot issue, so we talked about it all during class and here is what we came up with. This has three components, one being a shady and unethical dealership, the second part is an attorney violating the very oath she had taken, and third is the complete failure of our legal system. Our professor, who early in his career worked with the Illinois State Supreme, stated an attorney could get disbarred for this type of behavior. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial Unicode MS][SIZE=2]As a pre-law student I want to thank tonythemongoose for stating it straight. He never went after anyone personally; he just stated the facts and backed it up with straight up evidence. Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Ashen, you’re the very reason we have court systems and the A.R.D.C.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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Dear all thank you for all of the input and it made it very easy to say this! schaumburg Kia your dealership just lost another sale....
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[FONT=Century Gothic]Holy batboy! Look I personally think that KIA’s are Korean made garbage, but holy batboy this situation is PATHETIC!! I HEARD ABOUT THIS ISSUE FROM ABOUT I don’t know a couple dozen people. I have a relative who is a judge and he read this post and stated that he was ashamed at our legal system for allowing this to happen. The killer part of this whole situation is this, even if Ms. Ashen tried to shut up tonythemongoose, and as were all aware judges were prior attorneys so they all stick together, an Illinois judge can only stop tonythemongoose and no one else. So Ms. Ashen and Schaumburg Kia your actions regarding this case will continue to be posted as long as the consumer sees fit. First amendment rights; (Freedom of Speech.) So you see it will keep going and going…..and going….. Until the consumer believes it’s settled to there satisfaction. Hey tonythemongoose, Senator Burris is a liar and cheat, how about running for Senator, we need someone who will stand up and kick butt and take names.   [/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial Narrow]Holybatboy1 I read your post and you made some very good points. I can’t see a judge or an attorney going as far as to violating tonythemongooses fist amendment rights, but with that being said, I wouldn’t trust a judge or an attorney as far as I can throw them. Lets say there were to try and violate tonythemongooses first amendment rights, you could be rest assured that the postings would only get worse and grow at a larger abundance in rate. An Illinois Judges power ends with tonythemongoose, no one else. Under the first amendment it states freedom of speech, people have a right to give his or her opinions regarding any and all issues or writing a post or media related stories that pertain to an injustice. I looked on Pissed Consumer.com, and it shows that tonythemongoose gave Ms. Ashen and the KIA Corporation the ability to respond to his posting, yet they did nothing and that was back in September or October of 2008. I have a relative who is a federal attorney and she went, as far as to say, if tonythemongooses constitutional rights were violated, then this matter could become a federal case.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=2]Evidence is just that, you can’t discard what’s right in front of you, even if the judge turns a blind eye to it. What I can’t understand is this, Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Ashen are clearly at fault here, then why not just settle this issue with tonythemongoose and just move on. Grandpa1 said it right, where is the common sense here? Tonythemongoose we were wrong, what will it take to rectify the issue, so we can all move on and we’ll never deal with you again and you’ll never deal with us again…simple… Whether it’s stupidity or arrogance on their part of Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Ashen, they may have won the battle by lies and deception, but there getting destroyed in the war. You can’t rebuild your reputation once it’s been destroyed. The most ironic part about this issue is this; they destroyed their reputation all by themselves[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial Narrow]. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Book Antiqua]I’m not sure why this is such a hot topic but they sent a link to cardealercheck.com through our inner office mail at work. I went to cardealercheck.com and read all of the posts and to be honest I can now understand why people are so angry. Its one thing to be an unethical dealership but to lye cheat and then try to destroy a man’s character with more lies is intolerable. Everyone is right where the common sense here. Look let’s say at worst they settled this issue with tonythemongoose and it costs Schaumburg Kia twenty thousand dollars for a vehicle and twenty thousand dollars for damages. Isn’t it better then the enormous amounts of sales they’ve lost and are going to lose in the future? Whose fault is this, Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Ashen? If we can figure this out then why can’t they. They’ve tried making up stories about tonythemongoose, they tried using Ford Motor Credit against him, if you read his post if a finance company isn’t smart enough to sending you a billing statement and address to pay your payment, then they don’t deserve to get paid. I read in tonythemongoose post and he stated he’s owned thirty two cars, and he has had only one problem with one dealership and one lien holder. That’s amazing![/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua]I second the motion, Tonythemongoose for Senator……………..  [/FONT]
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March 3, 2009, 10:58 am
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[SIZE=2]This is unbelievable… I can’t believe the extraordinary amount of posting that have been done on my behalf. I want to start out by saying thank you again to everyone who has stood behind me and who have sent me literally thousands of supportive e-mails, and I would also like to thank the legal community, who has also sent me thousands of supportive e-mails and stated keep getting the word out. To be honest I figured the legal community would send me anything less then favorable e-mails, but whether it was from Cook County, Kane County, Dupage County, Mchenry County or other counties and or other states for that matter, they were all supportive and kind. These e-mails came from lawyers, judges, and excetra. [/SIZE] [SIZE=2]I have to honest here; my intention from the beginning was only to get the word out and insure this never happened to anyone else. I do agree with many of the posts, where’s the common sense here? The issue of me giving Ms. Ashen a representative of Schaumburg Kia and the KIA Corporation, the ability to respond to my postings was correct. Can I prove this? Yes I have a faxed letter and fax confirmation sheet sent to Ms. Ashen’s office, and I also have an e-mail sent to Ms. Marjorie Veards from the KIA Corporation, with a KIA case control number. Why did I invite Ms. Ashen and the KIA Corporation to tell their side of the story? To insure that everyone was given a fair and legitimate opportunity to defend themselves. Why? I wanted the consumer to read and form an opinion fairly and honestly. Did anyone ever respond from the KIA Corporation or Ms. Debra Ashen? No. I truly cannot figure out why this issue has caused such an outpouring of support for me, or such a outrage with the consumer. I will agree with one thing, why would a corporation and or dealership lose such a large amount of sales past, present, and future, over one vehicle is nothing less than mind-boggling. What started out as a simple story has blossomed into something that I no longer have any control over? I was recently told that the boycott has now reached over four million people, these individuals started this boycott on my behalf and without my involvement......Unreal...... and they have my debt of gratitude. [/SIZE] [SIZE=2]Thank you,[/SIZE] [SIZE=2]Tonythemongoose [/SIZE]
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March 4, 2009, 11:44 am
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[SIZE=5]tonythemongoose a class act as usual! as consumers be very warned schaumburg kia and ms ashen we will continue this until your all out of business or you guys do the right thing. four million do i here 8 million indivdual boycotts[/SIZE]
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March 4, 2009, 11:48 am
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[SIZE=5]tonythemongoose a class act as usual! as consumers be very warned schaumburg kia and ms ashen we will continue this until your all out of business or you guys do the right thing. four million do i here 8 million indivdual boycotts[/SIZE]
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March 4, 2009, 4:32 pm
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[FONT=Arial Narrow]Being the owner of a car dealership I normally hate these types of postings UNTIL…..I got in contact with tonythemongoose and seen first hand his evidence. Look I’m writing incognito because anyone who has purchased a vehicle realizes that a dealership isn’t just going to say whatever you want at whatever price its your car. Were all out for profit and do we at times do things that are less the admirable yes.. To forge a mans signature and then enter it into a court of law and then be dumb enough to try an obtain him a loan under an alias is the lowest form of automotive business that I’ve ever seen in the thirty years that I’ve been in the automotive industry. That is right these guys tried to loan tonythemongoose under a name that legally wasn’t his and I saw the lien holders letters firsthand to prove it. can you get someone a loan using an alias I don’t think so. these issues is so simple contact tonythemongoose and say what needs to be done here to insure you’re happy and let’s settle and part ways and lets all move on. I going to guess just by postings alone Schaumburg KIA have lost fifty cars sales due to cardealercheck.com and now take the number of people who were interested but never posted on cardealercheck.com. Let’s take a minimum number and say twenty. Forty plus twenty equals sixty. now we have over four million boycott e-mails and to be honest not everyone liked or was interested in a kia but let’s say two hundred people were and they have now changed there minds. Two hundred plus sixty equals two hundred and sixty lost car sales and this number is at the very minimal amount of lost car sales. Can we even count that high regarding the kia corporation and schaumburg kia lost profits. Ms. Ashen and schaumburg kia except responsibility for your actions and become adults and quit destroying a less than perfect industries known as the automotive and legal profession. Tonythemongoose even as the owner of a dealership you have my full support and I will insure my salesmen are aware of this to tell potential clients of the kia corporation or schaumburg kia. Don’t Buy![/FONT]
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March 5, 2009, 11:49 am
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[FONT=Lucida Console]this is wild there is even an owner of a dealership becoming involved. auto dealer1 it takes alott of guts to dish on one of your own. look everyone realizes these guys aren't going to do anything and there nothing more then criminals who stand behind a criminal attorney. tonythemongoose is standing up for what is right and schaumburg kia and ms. ashen are getting exactly what they deserve a bad rep and lost revenue. if they had any ethics or morals then they would have done the right thing from the begining. biggrandopa1 is write keep the boycotts going and eventually with this economy schaumburg kia and the kia corporation will go under like gm and chrysler and ms. ashens reputation will get to the point were other attorneys and judges will question her every move. i looked at all of the post and to lose millions of millions of dollars over a thirteen thousand dollar car is not only rediculous but only proves how dumb these individuals are.tonythemongoose what is the mark of great character standing up for what is right.[/FONT]
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March 5, 2009, 2:19 pm
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[FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=2]This issue keeps getting bigger by the day. As we’re all aware Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Ashen aren’t willing to do the right thing so I contacted a very good friend of mine who works in the Illinois State Supreme Court office last week and he had a very different outlook regarding ms. ashen and her clients Schaumburg Kia legal handling of this case. Tonythemongoose I hope this helps.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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March 6, 2009, 2:36 pm
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D?mn..... I can't believe this. there has to be at least 100 or more postings and at least 50,60,or 70 people who won't buy a car from schaumburg Kia.Wanger5 good deal man if ms. ashen doesn't want to do the right thing then let the illinois state supreme court force her to.I'm not an attorney but I would guess this can't be good thing for ms. ashen. as for schaumburg kia you guys are shady to say the least and if you aren't already out of business then you should be out of business soon. tonythemongoose right on!!!
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[FONT=Arial][FONT=Arial]I’ve been watching this situation for some time now, and to be honest I never liked these types of vicious bloging, until I read all of these posts which included e-mails from Tom (Schaumburg Kia). I work just east on Golf Rd in Schaumburg Illinois, so I pass Schaumburg Kia everyday and I haven’t seen a vehicle in Schaumburg Kia’s lot for a week or so now so in my opinion Schaumburg Kia is out of business.[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][FONT=Arial]I saw that Schaumburg Jeep moved just west of there old building, but nowhere did I see the Schaumburg Kia dealership. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][FONT=Arial]I believe that if Schaumburg Kia went bankrupt then more than likely their unethical business practices finally caught up with them in this brutal economy. What truly blew me away was the outpouring of support for tonythemongoose. As I contemplated this issue I finally realized why? Schaumburg Kia or the KIA Corporation never did anything to rectify this matter. If Schaumburg Kia sold twenty cars a month, then that would accumulate to two hundred and forty cars a year that the KIA Corporation lost in possible sales. I will guarantee you one thing, this boycott will continue and the KIA Corporation will continue to lose more and more profitability over one car. Here is a very simple remedy, tonythemongoose we were wrong so how can we come to a fair compromise, how tough is that. Well I guess these postings will now come to an end, , but will the boycott of Kia vehicles? [/FONT][/FONT]
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jeffery1 i think you maybe correct i was drivinh through schaumburg and i didn't see one car in schaumburg kias lot. well i can only say one thing good ridence and i hope this sends a message to all criminal dealerships. we the people have spoken loud and clear. was this tonythemongooses fault no it was the criminal behavior that finally caught up with schaumburg kia. as american corporations in order to survive you must do the right thing by the consumer. tonythemongoose thank you nd good luck
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Ladies and Gentleman, I've been contacted via e-mail an enormous amount of time pertaining to Schaumburg kia possibly being out of business do I know if this is true on not? No. Let me start by saying this if Schaumburg Kia is out of business, then I feel bad for anyone who is employed and loses there jobs. I was truly amazed at the outpouring of support for me then, and the continued support me now. I would please ask one thing, I realize their is a boycott going around regarding the Kia Corporation and Kia automobiles. I realize that people are very upset regarding this issue, but I would please ask that you only hold the parties responsible who are involved in this issue. Cardealercheck.com opened up all of the postings, and I was able to read all of them,and a couple of dealerships were mentioned in these posts. The individuals at these dealerships had no part in this matter other than carrying the Kia name. Please insure that the individuals who were directly related to this are the only individual or corporations held responsible for this and no one else. There are alott of great dealerships that I've dealt with over the years, and it wouldn't be fair to lump them all together. If the kia Corporation continues to handle situations as they've done with me personally, then they will continue to receive negative feedback, but that will be there choice. As for the boycott since I wasn't involved ,if you choose to continue as I've been told,then that would be your decision. Thank you, tonythemongoose
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